Let's have some fun speculation

[RichH]

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Wow would love to see one of those one day.

That would really be something as very few were actually made and I don't believe any exist today. You could probably start with a late model Spitfire fuselage and modify that, but the wing would have to be made entirely from scratch...

[GRNDP51]

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That would really be something as very few were actually made and I don't believe any exist today. You could probably start with a late model Spitfire fuselage and modify that, but the wing would have to be made entirely from scratch...

One single wing left apparently.. Off of the Attacker which used the same wing (in some museum), then attach it to a late Spit,

Unless these supposed Pakistan Attackers exist, supposed surplus of those somewhere in Pakistan.. Wish i knew.

Would also like to see a Sea Fang too, such cool planes

[cdtpf60]

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Also wing limited. It wasn't until the Spiteful that the basic airframe received a laminar flow wing, so I would start with one of those instead. But then the consumable demand would rise even further since those huge boxes hanging out in the breeze would need to be eliminated by going to boil-off...

i'm not too sure about the wing limitation....a spitfire flown by Squadron Leader J. R. Tobin, reached 606 mph (975 km/h, Mach 0.891) in a 45° dive....and there is speculation about a later griffon powered one reaching speed of 690 mph (1,110 km/h, Mach 0.96 in a dive,in many ways the elipitical wing is supierior to the laminar flow one used on the spiteful/seafang.

but getting an owner to allow a spit to be modified to racing spec would be near impossible....but you could build a new one

[Wild Bill Kelso]

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Yeah, boil off is huge!

The new crew of the Bear is so proud that they got rid of every Cornell engine mod, now they can run consistent 470's with a stock engine.

Please get it rid of the Cornell boil off, run consistent 460's.

I'm not saying it didn't work on the bear. I'm saying it doesn't work on every application. There needs to be room for the boiler and room to store the fluids to make it through an entire race.

[RichH]

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i'm not too sure about the wing limitation

The Spitfire wing, due to construction, is only good up to about 480 and then the wing starts to flex... distorting the airfoil

[toldjaso]

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Geeeeeez here we are with the boil off thing again. Everybody seems to think if you throw boil off on something it makes it a winner. There is a lot more to it then that.

Not Really.
Worth a whole bunch of drag reduction (speed) and a whole bunch of ponies that you don't have to whip just to pull the radiator through the air.
Probably the easiest thing you could do to gain speed.
Plus the engine likes the constant oil temp.

Oh, did I say easy? well, whatever...

[ChrisMX105]

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Not Really.
Worth a whole bunch of drag reduction (speed) and a whole bunch of ponies that you don't have to whip just to pull the radiator through the air.
Probably the easiest thing you could do to gain speed.
Plus the engine likes the constant oil temp.

Oh, did I say easy? well, whatever...

Like anything in Air Racing

Simple
Cheap
And Easy

Plus it works right the first time.....
Gauranteed.

[Idaho_cowpony]

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In regards to the Griffon powered Spit...
Steve Hinton was quoted, March of '02 saying "..Slick wings, a boil off cooling system and I'll bet it could be a 460+ MPH Reno racer."

- Joseph

[V1670]

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Think -- Tsunami...

WE HAVE A WINNER!! Like all the suggestions; some really innovative ideas. Think PM has the most room for development, but I think the future is existing motors but small,light airframes.

[Arrow]

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Think of something the size of Tsunami with a Merlin or R2800, but built out of carbon fibre composites like NemesisNXT. Would allow for faster build time, more complex shapes, no oil canning, and potentially lighter and stronger. Add to that a modern prop design similar to a C130J or Q400.

[Idaho_cowpony]

Re: Let's have some fun speculation

Think of something the size of Tsunami with a Merlin or R2800, but built out of carbon fibre composites like NemesisNXT. Would allow for faster build time, more complex shapes, no oil canning, and potentially lighter and stronger. Add to that a modern prop design similar to a C130J or Q400.

Ahh... Good to you see posting Arrow.. I remember your ideas..

- J

[First time Juke]

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Think -- Tsunami...

Remember my TS II Project from 2003 ?

[CJAM427]

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I can't find the thread (thought it was this one) but there was talk about how to further improve Czech Mate.
The consensus seemed to be that it really needs a better wing.

Going further with that thought,
hypothetically if we forget about financial aspects, would it even be possible to graft a Mustang, Sea Fury, or Bearcat wing to the Yak? -I think any of those 3 wings would allow for more prop clearance, which means you could also put a bigger prop on it, improving it's performance even further.

[MRE]

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Why bother, just build the 3350 powered Mustang.

[CJAM427]

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Why bother, just build the 3350 powered Mustang.

Well it wouldn't be Czech Mate anymore if you did that. -The inner-modeler in me loves the idea of grafting a new wing onto the Yak.

I hadn't ever considered a 3350 powered Mustang before though, which also make for a fun project!