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    In these two classes we have seen Matt Jackson, Doc as well as a few jets get DQ for high flying while dealing with lapping slower aircraft. The 2017 gold race was affected by slower racers as well. Personally in these two classes I would prefer to see only planes in the race that are able to not get lapped. In the interview with Doc he talks of the challenges and well as Matt J talking about he had no where to than up.

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    Re: unlimited and jets gold racers

    Originally posted by eldon2101 View Post
    In these two classes we have seen Matt Jackson, Doc as well as a few jets get DQ for high flying while dealing with lapping slower aircraft. The 2017 gold race was affected by slower racers as well. Personally in these two classes I would prefer to see only planes in the race that are able to not get lapped. In the interview with Doc he talks of the challenges and well as Matt J talking about he had no where to than up.
    Dealing with lap traffic is and always has been a part of motor racing (save for NHRA type events). And given the current crop of UNL, what we'd be left with is a field of three or four racers. And this year was would have been a complete and total bust under this scenario. Only one A/C ...ONE...completed all 8 laps (Ms. A excluded as she was DQ'd). That's not a race...that's a performance.

    I understand the concern here and it does bring up some painful situations. What follows is simply one man's opinion.

    High flying DQ's have been around for years. Every pilot knows the rules. Moreover, the Contest Committee (the folks charged with judging such things) are fully aware of the dynamics involved in overtaking a slower aircraft.

    The rules state that (paraphrasing) busting the maximum altitude solely for the purpose of overtaking is a violation and the aircraft will be DQ'd. All of this is set forth in the NCAR Rules of Operations and Competition. There is a science behind the rules regarding energy vectoring, scatter patterns, debris radius, etc. It's not an arbritrary thing.

    On a side note, a question for the group: How many of us have actually read the rules? If interested, check out page 19 of the NCAR Rules of Operations and Competition. You can find them on the RARA site here.

    A lot of chatter on another thread about radio comms supposedly "directing" a pilot on how to "block" an overtaking A/C. That's BS...pure and simple.

    Bottom Line: This is racing. It's about going faster than the other guy. And sometimes that means passing him on the race course when it's not for position. It comes with the territory...

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      Re: unlimited and jets gold racers

      Originally posted by eldon2101 View Post
      In these two classes we have seen Matt Jackson, Doc as well as a few jets get DQ for high flying while dealing with lapping slower aircraft. The 2017 gold race was affected by slower racers as well. Personally in these two classes I would prefer to see only planes in the race that are able to not get lapped. In the interview with Doc he talks of the challenges and well as Matt J talking about he had no where to than up.
      By that standard, in 2019 only two airplanes would have started the unlimited Gold and only one would have finished.

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      • #4
        Re: unlimited and jets gold racers

        3 were capable of making the gold, Miss A would have raced and had less chance of being forced wide coming around 7,8,9. By no means what I have said is the best choice. Thanks air boss for a very well worded response.

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        • #5
          Re: unlimited and jets gold racers

          Originally posted by Race5 View Post
          By that standard, in 2019 only two airplanes would have started the unlimited Gold and only one would have finished.
          And in 2017, and 2021 only two would've started.

          Wasn't this what the "Super Gold" and "Super Sport" were trying to do? It didn't work..
          Reno from '99 to '23

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          • #6
            Re: unlimited and jets gold racers

            Originally posted by GRNDP51 View Post
            And in 2017, and 2021 only two would've started.

            Wasn't this what the "Super Gold" and "Super Sport" were trying to do? It didn't work..
            Exactly!!

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