The Beguine ?

[blacksheep]

It seems everytime I read anything on J.D. Reeds "Beguine " P-51C Mustang the wingtip radiators come up more than the alleged "asymmetric" wing does.
Does anyone have a good Picture that shows the wings (front view , top view) or a three view drawing

[Lockheed Bob]

Re: The Beguine ?

The plane was owned by J.Cochran (Famous women pilot) and flown by Bill Odom in Cleveland Thompson Trophy race and was killed in it racing. It also klled a woman & child in house.It ended the Cleveland Air Races at that time frame. Randy Goss should have some pictures of it Beautiful plane.
Bob Gollwitzer

[AirDOGGe]

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My searches have not found anything but some photos that might be helpful. I thought I might be able to find some RC aircraft plans, but no luck.

For those readers unfamiliar with Beguine's creation and fate, I included a few links to the story of this event:


(photos)

http://www.pilotfriend.com/century-of-flight/racing/aircraft/July2004%20upload/Beguine.htm

(Warning: Very discriptive story about the crash of racer #7)

http://www.grayco.com/cleveland/sports-legends/sample2.html

(3 pages with close-up photos of the radiator pods)

http://hometown.aol.com/conroeqb/beguinepage2index.html

(This Adobe PDF file describes a model kit for Beguine's pods, and has a pretty good close-up photo of the real plane's right wing pod

http://members.chello.se/ipmsairrace/28beguine.pdf

( This site has pics of air racer models, including one of Beguine (click to enlarge)):

http://apma.org.au/membersmodels/ian_wrenford/racers.html

[spacegrrrl]

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The general concensus is that the wings were equal lenght and that the rumor was started as joke by Beech.

Michele

[First time Juke]

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I did not quite understand first Bequine was a C model. Other C models in the races ?


here is a neat C model P-51:

http://www.x-plane.org/users/demon/P51Crestored.jpg

[AirDOGGe]

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I don't think I ever saw a "B" at reno myself...They've all been D models or later...

In the early 80's I saw a rare A-model at the races, but it wasn't a competitive racer....

A, B and C models had the turtledeck like Beguine.....The bubble canopy appeared with the D model 'Stangs....

I shot these pics of an A model (N51Z) at Moffett Field in the late 90s....You can read details about it at Mustangsmustangs:

http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/survivors/pages/43-6006.shtml

[AirDOGGe]

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Hmmm...I tried to attach some photos, but they are not appearing....I upped them to my site instead. Click the thumbnails for the full size photos:

[matt]

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skip holm flew a p-51b in the early 80's if i remember right

[kennsmithf2g]

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In 1981, Steve Hinton and Jim Maloney flew P51A N4235Y. They alternated heat races.

Placed 5th out of 7 in the Silver Finals at 328.69 Mph

In 1982 Skip Holm flew Pete Regina's P51B Shangri-La Race #68
Placed 3rd out of 7 in the Silver Finals at 369.48 MPH
This plane later became race #97 "The Believer"

Several P51B/C and A36's flew in the Postwar National Air Races also.

TTFN....Kenn

[AirDOGGe]

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In 1981, Steve Hinton and Jim Maloney flew P51A N4235Y.

That's the one I remember....Same year the BF-109 had the gear collapse (which happened less than an hour before I set foot on Stead soil for the first time in my life).

I forgot about Shangri-La.....Probably "water on the brain" from all the dang rainfall that year (we literally had a stream flowing through the middle of our campsite!)

...Placed 5th out of 7 in the Silver...

Hmmm...Not bad....Better than I thought it did.....Just shows what an Allison-powered 'Stang could do at lower altitudes...

Thx for the reminder....