Smallish bugatti racer !

[First time Juke]

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Here in Batten - Norwood site; http://gamma.nic.fi/~wilpu/pikstats.htm

Sorry that link went to a finnish PIK-26 project.

Here is Batten Norwood:

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_norwoods_racing_funnycar_integra/index.html

[First time Juke]

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Here is how G-force Racer aka DART would have been in my chart.

I think they are ( were ) in the right direction.

[First time Juke]

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They are advancing; http://www.bugattiaircraft.com/news.htm

[First time Juke]

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New gearbox; http://bugatti100p.com/

[boomtown]

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That is a beautiful design. Are the radiators in the tail?

[JayReno]

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Cooling air enters on leading edge of V Tail, vanes turn flow toward fuselage, in fuselage air is turned forward thru radiator, then flow turned and exited from fuselage at about a 45 degree angle to fuselage. (similar to how the airflow is on a PT-6)

[First time Juke]

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That is a beautiful design. Are the radiators in the tail?

The radiator intakes are of the V-tail..the radiator is located end of the fuselage.

Piaggio 180 Avanti uses 170 hp:s per passenger to go 455 mph...I am sure new materials and clean aeroplane can go 500 mph with less than 1000 hp...is it going to be Bugatti ...who knows.

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Edit: Just like JayReno mentioned.

[Reno_Steve]

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I would think building a non-exact replica using carbon composites and a modern power plant would make sense to ensure that the "exact replica" is safe to fly and avoid damage after the hours of work put into the airframe and help the pilot survive. Maybe conduct the early flight using RC.



After the Buggatti why not make a replica of the Piaggio_P.7 seaplane proposed for the Schneider trophy races. (The original never flew)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.7

[First time Juke]

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I would think building a non-exact replica using carbon composites and a modern power plant would make sense to ensure that the "exact replica" is safe to fly and avoid damage after the hours of work put into the airframe and help the pilot survive. Maybe conduct the early flight using RC.



After the Buggatti why not make a replica of the Piaggio_P.7 seaplane proposed for the Schneider trophy races. (The original never flew)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.7

Carbon composites are a must..but you have to remember that they weight 90 x more than foam 4.5 x more than spruce and 3 x more than plywood.

DH Mosquito was ply-balsa-ply and flew same bomb load than B-17...only difference was that Mossies were never hardly ever intercepted.

[mayday51]

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Carbon composites are a must..buy you have to remember that they weight 90 x more than foam 4.5 x more than spruce and 3 x more than plywood.

DH Mosquito was ply-balsa-ply and flew same bomb load than B-17...only difference was that Mossies were never hardly ever intercepted.

weight must be per CC....(volume)
carbon fiber need not be so thick or abundant as the other materiels
so would weigh less and given an effective design (correct stranding)
so much stronger.....

.......the checkbook would be thinner by the same (in ratio)

[First time Juke]

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weight must be per CC....(volume)
carbon fiber need not be so thick or abundant as the other materiels
so would weigh less and given an effective design (correct stranding)
so much stronger.....

.......the checkbook would be thinner by the same (in ratio)

That is the problem with carbon you can't make it thin enough to beat the thinnest plywood in weight.

I would use it ( carbon ) as bondage material...and even so cf seems to absorb when used with foam sh****ads of epoxy into the foam in/during vacuum sacking.

I am trying to study a new method to make a really lite and durable construction...80% foam / 15 % plywood / 5 % CF ( in volume ).

[C_roundy]

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That is the problem with carbon you can't make it thin enough to beat the thinnest plywood in weight.

Umm, are you serious? unidirectional and woven carbon laminates, fabrics, narrow tapes and ribbons are readily available from 0.003" up.


Examples: http://www.cstsales.com/products.html

http://www.acpsales.com/OnlineStore.php?cat=5382

[AirDOGGe]

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I've seen strong but flexible landing gear skids for RC micro-helicopters that was laser-cut out of a .oo5" sheet of woven carbon fiber. I've used plywood of that thickness while building RC planes, and I know from experience that such thin sheets of the latter "organic" material aren't as stiff as and break easier than carbon-fiber/resin materials.


You can't beat carbon fiber for structures today. It's definitely superior to wood in most areas except cost of material, else Boeing's new 787 and all those professional F1 race cars would be built from supplies acquired from the local lumberyard. !

[C_roundy]

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Yup, whether you want to power your own butt around with the 3/4 hp or so that human legs can sustain, http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/pho...rge/index.html

Or if you just wanna' do something less ambitious like takeoff at weights in excess of 1.2 million lb, with a wing in excess of 380 ft, to launch heavy payloads to any orbit anytime,

http://www.stratolaunch.com/

Or anything in between, carbon is groovy man....

Can you say "Superior Modulus of Elasticity" ten times fast?

[First time Juke]

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I've seen strong but flexible landing gear skids for RC micro-helicopters that was laser-cut out of a .oo5" sheet of woven carbon fiber. I've used plywood of that thickness while building RC planes, and I know from experience that such thin sheets of the latter "organic" material aren't as stiff as and break easier than carbon-fiber/resin materials.


You can't beat carbon fiber for structures today. It's definitely superior to wood in most areas except cost of material, else Boeing's new 787 and all those professional F1 race cars would be built from supplies acquired from the local lumberyard. !

That is silly..F1 race cars are made of carbon because they have complex shapes and they go 360 km/h and when hit the tyre wall it causes -50 G accelarations.

Have you seen a Sleek Streak rubber band powered model plane fly when made of carbon...I didn't think you'd seen one...: )

Duramold was used in the biggest aeroplane ever made ( and flown )...that is treated wood.

Here is a pretty good loaded unloaded weight ratio with old fashioned plywood design; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Bruyne_Snark

Not saying carbon can't do the same; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyn'Aero_MCR01

My design will have 3.0 - 4.0 the ratio.

Voyager was over 4.0 ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Voyager