Randy Haskin's Eagle

[Stevo]

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10 hours strapped in to an ejection seat with no ability to get up and stretch your legs.

Here is one area the C-5 leaves most (if not all) people on military aircraft a little green with envy.

[bent]

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I got to see my first F-15E demo this last summer (06) at Alliance, Ft. Worth and it was pure wood. I can apperciate the dedication it takes to get a ride like that, sitting on top of those two big ol' engines.

Have you ever taken the thing to where it quits accelerating

[Randy Haskin]

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Have you ever taken the thing to where it quits accelerating

Yeah, I had it to 680 KCAS at 500' on the bombing run in this photo and that was all she was gonna give me.

[SpinB]

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Unless I'm seeing things, those look like B-61 shapes! You defintely need the speed for those babies! Now THAT is a very cool thing.......

doot doot doot doot....get some....doot doot....get some.......


uh...the instrumentation guy didn't look at the tspi tag......ihdiot.uuhhh

[AAFO_WSagar]

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Here is one area the C-5 leaves most (if not all) people on military aircraft a little green with envy.

I guess another favorite flying moment.. not really flying but.... Nellis '03, I think... John Parker had lunched the engine on Blue... Airboss "Lips" came up to crew and said "if there's anything I can do for you guys, let me know".. can't remember who it was, this was the year that the Bear guys were subbing as John's crew, I think it might have been Stacy..

Anyway... there had been a C-5 and a C-17 on the ramp... "well.. if that C-5 hasn't left yet..."

Without hesitation, "Lips" got on his phone and started making calls.. this was "" this close to being one of the great moments in the history of air racing!

UNFORTUNATELY... both AC were already taxiing and "Lips" couldn't make the connection but can you imagine the looks on a few faces at Stead when a C-5 or C-17 taxiied up, dropped the ramp and the crew wheeled out one tired, battle worn Blue Thunder Air Racer!

It *almost* happened...

I chit you not!

[Randy Haskin]

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uh...the instrumentation guy didn't look at the tspi tag......ihdiot.uuhhh

Heh heh....

"If only there were something on the video that said what kind of weapon was being dropped.....OH WAIT! THERE IS!"

[zeke]

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Yeah, I had it to 680 KCAS at 500' on the bombing run in this photo and that was all she was gonna give me.
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Did that run feel like you were really moving? As in I'm sure it would if you were at only a few hundred feet but at 20 000' the view out the window might be similar to being in a 747.

Do you often get the feeling of speed? At what sort of speeds and altitudes. Watching lots of in flight videos of jets it appears that unless they are really low (sub 1000') and going really fast the sensation of speed doesn't look that much different to driving down a freeway. Sure you might be doing 90mph but that doesn't always feel quick.

Some of the videos at patricksaviation.com such as this one:

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/Guest/50/

Really gives you a feeling of speed (those guys are crazy) but it is all at almost zero altitude. Get a reasonable amount of altitude and it seems no matter how fast you are going it doesn't really "feel" that quick. Maybe it's the camera angles.

I remember seeing some footage from an SR71, and even though you could tell it was moving, it didn't really look that fast.

[wolfee]

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I remember seeing some footage from an SR71, and even though you could tell it was moving, it didn't really look that fast

They had to remove the rear view mirrors from the SR71s. Because the pilots would look in the rear view to clear the target/area/or what have and would miss thier next waypoints..


lol, now thats mooooving!

[Randy Haskin]

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Did that run feel like you were really moving? As in I'm sure it would if you were at only a few hundred feet but at 20 000' the view out the window might be similar to being in a 747.

Do you often get the feeling of speed? At what sort of speeds and altitudes.

At altitude, as you can guess, there is no sensation of speed whatsoever below about 500 knots indicated. In the F-15E, due to the shape of the canopy, there is a noticeable wind noise over the canopy above 500. Note, though, that for example at 50,000' you could be supersonic but only showing 275 knots indicated.

Down low there is most definitely a sensation of speed...what is different than being low in a slower airplane is that I'm looking much further in front of the aircraft to compensate for the faster speed. Flying low in a GA airplane at 150 knots I may be looking 1/2 mile or a mile in front of where I'm going, and that allows me to see the trees whipping by in my peripheral vision. When I'm going 400 knots at 500 feet, I'm looking 3 or 4 or 5 miles out in front of the airplane, looking for hazards. Looking that far out means that I don't really get to see much of the ground rush going past the nose.

Where the airplane really "talks" is when it's turning under moderate to heavy G. The airplane buffets and buzzes while turning, with a loud wind rush noise over the canopy.

Here's a pilot report on the F-15E that I wrote for Scott Germain...there's more on that here:

http://www.warbirdaeropress.com/articles/F15/F15%20Pt%201.htm

[MRussell]

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When I'm going 400 knots at 500 feet, I'm looking 3 or 4 or 5 miles out in front of the airplane, looking for hazards. Looking that far out means that I don't really get to see much of the ground rush going past the nose.

Where the airplane really "talks" is when it's turning under moderate to heavy G. The airplane buffets and buzzes while turning, with a loud wind rush noise over the canopy.

Oh, man, just reading that gets me all excited. Reading it twice was more effective than my coffee this morning.

[Randy Haskin]

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I didn't even mention that yesterday I took my Uncle's jet out to central Louisiana and shot about 350 20mm rounds through the M61 gun at some big old propane tanks on the Ft Polk bombing range.

Strafing is fun!!!

[speeddemon]

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I didn't even mention that yesterday I took my Uncle's jet out to central Louisiana and shot about 350 20mm rounds through the M61 gun at some big old propane tanks on the Ft Polk bombing range.

Strafing is fun!!!

Lots of refineries down in that neck of the woods, bro. Just be careful you're not mistakenly shooting at the British Petroleum 'tanks'.

"Ooooooh, they blow up a lot prettier when they are FULL!!!!!"

[MRussell]

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But it's fine if you want to shoot at the Exxon ones.

[SpinB]

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Hey, remember to kick the pedals and spread the fun around!!

[zeke]

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Down low there is most definitely a sensation of speed...what is different than being low in a slower airplane is that I'm looking much further in front of the aircraft to compensate for the faster speed. Flying low in a GA airplane at 150 knots I may be looking 1/2 mile or a mile in front of where I'm going, and that allows me to see the trees whipping by in my peripheral vision. When I'm going 400 knots at 500 feet, I'm looking 3 or 4 or 5 miles out in front of the airplane, looking for hazards. Looking that far out means that I don't really get to see much of the ground rush going past the nose.

Thanks for the link, it's interesting the similarity and differences to general aviation aircraft.

I read once how the human visual system is only really designed to handle up to 20-30mph, and beyond that it gets more information going in than we can process, so becomes a blur. So to compensate when we are going faster (like flying low or driving quick) we look further in front of us to point where it appears like we are moving at 20-30mph. Maybe that explains looking 3-5 miles in front of you.

Any one who has been around the pylons at reno got any thoughts? Are you focused in front of the aircraft, at the next pylon, the aircraft your chasing or a long way out in front of where your flying?

The "in flight" video that looked the quickest to me wasn't actually of anything going that fast, but of a camera strapped to the back of a Falcon (the bird, not an F16) as it flew between a forest of trees. My brain couldn't keep up with it and if it was me trying to control myself getting through there at it's speed I would be impaled in the branches real quick.