Rare Bear News - It's Official

[ignomini]

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Yeehaw! Great news.

[440_Magnum]

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One only need ask John YaYa, John Bigboote, Kirk and Spock for the true answer!

Its BigbooTAY.

[Hauler Driver]

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Just read where the Bear has been stripped of her painted and going thru an inspection.........anyone know what the new paint scheme and colors will be......or will it remain the same? Thanks
Brian

Victor... What do you think about the paint sceme? You have been putting together some pretty cool designs for some other planes.

Don

[jarrodeu]

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Victor... What do you think about the paint sceme? You have been putting together some pretty cool designs for some other planes.

Don

I see your signature is in purple, hmmmm.

Jarrod

[ignomini]

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In honor of JP's return, a couple scans from 2005 stereo shots.

[Hawkeye]

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I would like to se her in the purple/white scheme again. As long she is well prepared to go racing, it doesn't really matter how she is painted.

[Tin Man]

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I would like to se her in the purple/white scheme again. As long she is well prepared to go racing, it doesn't really matter how she is painted.

Agreed
Hopefully she won't be sitting in the back of a hangar leaking oil on Sunday while all the others are out racing.
Tom

[Apteryx]

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I've heard that da Bear's down to bare metal now.
Can any of you local guys, get a shot?

Paul

[AAFO_WSagar]

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I've heard that da Bear's down to bare metal now.
Can any of you local guys, get a shot?

Paul

Paul... I'll confirm that she's bare (mostly) but also, would like to discourage anyone from attempting photography in the hangar...

The subject of the level of detail of information, including pictures, that will be *willingly* allowed out was discussed at the crew work weekend (last weekend) It has not yet been decided by Dave Cornell, exactly what level of information he'd like others to know about the Rare Bear project...

I'd hope everyone respects the competitive spirit and the wishes of the team to maintain a level of informational sharing that they are comfortable with...

Besides that, I heard the word was.. if anyone is seen in the hangar with a camera.. feed them to the hell hole demon!

[AAFO_WSagar]

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Paul got in trouble...

nananananna

Oh Geez Dasher... you're always holding my feet to the fire..

Nobody got in trouble.. I'm just relaying the information that was given me by the crew.

Crew announcents and some (limited) pix are in the works..

But yes, she's bare metal, as reported on the rarebear.com site, she's undergoing a major inspection process. Budget is in place, HUGE talent is in place..

As airports go, Stead's pretty open, so I'm sure as we move towards September, it's going to be nearly impossible to keep the "lid" on the progress.. BUT..

The lid is what most teams like on their "situations" during the work season. I've always and I mean, no matter how hard it was, I've ALWAYS honored the requests by teams who let me see "stuff" to keep my mouth shut until they wanted the info released.

All I'm asking is that others try to do the same..

TIA!

[Apteryx]

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Wasn't suggesting anything covert. I think at least most of our local guys, have the good sense to ask.
It's a little out of he way for the team webmaster, and I'd hate to see the bare Bear streak by without someone, capturing the moment.

Paul

[MRussell]

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This may be a stupid question, but I'm no rocket surgeon. It certainly isn't meant to be disrespectful.

Anyways, why do the teams give a crap if the "lid" is on or off their winter work? If it doesn't make the airplane go faster or slower in September (and we all know it doesn't), why does it matter?

That's it! From now on, none of you are allowed to take pictures of my C-172 as it goes through its annual inspection!!! I kid, I kid.

[speeddemon]

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This may be a stupid question, but I'm no rocket surgeon. It certainly isn't meant to be disrespectful.

Anyways, why do the teams give a crap if the "lid" is on or off their winter work? If it doesn't make the airplane go faster or slower in September (and we all know it doesn't), why does it matter?

That's it! From now on, none of you are allowed to take pictures of my C-172 as it goes through its annual inspection!!! I kid, I kid.

Oh gads, its not a stupid or ignorant question AT ALL. But you have to look at it from the 'racing' side of the house.

This is the same thing we go through with the Unlimited Hydroplane team. There are 'fan message boards' similar to this, and the fans on there are very passionate about supporting the sport. But they seem to feel that because they are passionate that they have some birthright to know everything that is going on in every camp over the winter....and when teams like ours keep that 'lid' on, they scream, kick, and have tantrums on a regular basis.

The reason the 'lid' is kept on is because nobody else (not fans, not other teams, not anyone except those of us involved in the project) has a NEED to know. There is a lot of 'Secret Squirrel Sh*t' that goes on over the winter...and though it may not mean anything to you, the fan, to see the new argon-cooled doodle-whang that we have constructed and installed in the boat, the crew chief for 'brand-x' team might take one quick look, have the light-bulb go on, and whammo...now they come out with their own argon-cooled doodle-whang Mark II. And suddenly, before the season starts, any performance advantage we may have had is gone. In a sport where 5 mph may make all the difference in the world, you have to keep the lid on things sometimes.

The argument has been made, 'well, it doesn't matter, because everyone will see it at the first race anyhow and figure it out'. Perhaps. But thats why you'll see a lot of the teams with parts of their boat 'covered' at all times when its not in the water. And even if everyone can figure it out at or after the first race, you're still six months ahead of them on developing and fine tuning it. There is your advantage.

But the final reason goes mostly back to the 'its none of your business' logic. The mystery keeps everyone guessing and wondering what is going on. In the boats we call that 'dry-land racing'. Its similar to 'hangar flying'. If there is something significant that we can let public without giving anything away, we will. But we're not going to open our drawers and say "okay...here's where we are, and here's what we're doing".

I think that Dave C's decision to have a 'closed shop' is right in line with most other serious racing endeavours. If I was Dave, I wouldn't want Kerch to know about my new argon-cooled doodle-wang until after the Bear goes out and runs a 520+ lap....at which time Kerch goes "uh oh...."

[BellCobraIV]

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I think that Dave C's decision to have a 'closed shop' is right in line with most other serious racing endeavours. If I was Dave, I wouldn't want Kerch to know about my new argon-cooled doodle-wang until after the Bear goes out and runs a 520+ lap....at which time Kerch goes "uh oh...."

Matt,
The best secrets in the air racing business are real, and they can have an effect on the competition in the future. I applaud Dave Cornell's decision to not only run a closed shop, but to do it with a need to know attitude inside the shop. I can tell you one thing with certaintity, if anyone from the driver to the wheel washer thinks they can get away with breeching Dave Cornell's security net, they'll be watching the next race from the 22nd row, They will be uninvited. Buy your tickets, reserve your rooms, get your popcorn the "Rare Bear show" will not be on the internet, it will be in the sky above Reno and you won't want to miss it. When I work with Dave Cornell and I'm going to lunch with a guy from another team, Dave knows it in advance, or by cell phone. This message was approved by Dave Cornell by the way, he told me to "let her rip" .

See ya there, and I'll see ya here, but I won't be talking about there, here.

[speeddemon]

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See ya there, and I'll see ya here, but I won't be talking about there, here.

AAAAGGGGGHHHHHH....here, there, there, here......Uncle Henry, Auntie Em, it's a twister............