do you know this invader

[Race5]

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There was a thread here about a year ago where the white #76 Invader had been restored and was supposed to make it to Reno '06 as part of the Heritage competition. I don't think it ever made it, though.

The owner wanted to bring it to Reno one last time before taking it to Australia to it's new home., but not as part of the Heritage deal. RARA of course said no. It is now safely in Australia undergoing some updates.

[sledge39]

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...

...three racing A-26s....

...Reno '68....Lear....




...Mojave '70....McDonnell and Lear...




...Mojave '71....Hamilton...Alford...



....sledge...

[speeddemon]

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NICE......

[stuntflyr]

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A friend told me a story about how George took off in the On-Mark for a semi long cross country and had an engine failure during the climb. Well, the airplane was clean and climbing, and it really needed to be at the destination, so press on!

I can remember Steve Hinton blowing past me in the Museum's A-26, single engine, while I was flying a B-25. He was waving... and smiling...

Invader's are fast.

Chris...

[SpinB]

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On-Mark's are the.......bomb!

[fenceliner01]

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Don't know that one but did you know Robert Converse's mother flew one in the cross country "Bendix" race at the 1946 Cleveland Air Races.

I know "Huntress" got sold, but I sure missed seeing it at Reno for the last 5 or so years. anybody know why they stopped coming?

[RAD2LTR]

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On-Mark's are the.......bomb!

On-Marks are cool. Anyone know how many are left. I know there were a lot lost in battle, but there have to be a few out there. Those tip tanks are kinda cool. As far as twin engined bombers go, those are the coolest. Anything that can serve in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, is a well built and designed plane. It would be so cool to see one racing at Reno. If I had more $ than I really knew what to do with, I'd buy one clean it up hang a hot set of engines on it and see what it would do. It wouldn't win, but it would be a heck of a show.

Will

[T J Johansen]

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On-Marks are cool. Anyone know how many are left. I know there were a lot lost in battle, but there have to be a few out there. Those tip tanks are kinda cool. As far as twin engined bombers go, those are the coolest. Anything that can serve in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, is a well built and designed plane. It would be so cool to see one racing at Reno. If I had more $ than I really knew what to do with, I'd buy one clean it up hang a hot set of engines on it and see what it would do. It wouldn't win, but it would be a heck of a show.

Will

Depends on what you're asking about. Civilian On-Mark executive versions or the B-26K model On-Mark rebuilt for the USAF in the 1960s? There is a handful of military K's around in museums, and one for sale with Lynch Air Tankers in Montana. I know there is a group on the east coast that is trying to get the funds to buy it. Civilian exec. versions are somewhat more plentiful, but unfortunately a lot of these has been traded (or caught by the DEA and donated) back to the USAF and rebuilt as stock WWII bombers.

The only military K to have raced was Wally McDonnell's "The Mojave Kid" that flew in the 70s. Lloyd Hamilton's #16 N500MR is the only civilian conversion to race. I have heard that Matt Jackson plans to rebuild his pressurized On-Mark Marksman with R-3350s and go racing, something I don't hope will happen. There are only three or four of those left, and it would be nice to see it restored as such!

T J

[speeddemon]

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I know "Huntress" got sold, but I sure missed seeing it at Reno for the last 5 or so years. anybody know why they stopped coming?

I think for one, Bob Converse got married....and the shift in 'attitude and priorities' was a major contributor.

[stuntflyr]

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I know "Huntress" got sold, but I sure missed seeing it at Reno for the last 5 or so years. anybody know why they stopped coming?

Money.

Robert Converse was an airline pilot. Back in the 60's when airline pilots made as much as doctors, fighters were relatively inexpensive. Airline pilots could buy them and fly them, afford (marginally) to operate them.

The seventies saw the cost of fighters go way up, but level off in the eighties. The airline pilot caught up again, though not to the level of comfort that was there in the sixties.

Finally, they are now sky high. I believe Converse was a US Airways pilot, and must have needed to augment his retirement with his well placed investment (said P-51).

Selling tangable asset's to augment retirement (especially defined benefit plans) in this day and age is seen plenty as corporations deny their workers the promised (contracts?) retirement through the perversion of corporate bankruptcy laws. The worker whose back the company is built is the last "creditor" to be repayed, and the retirement plans are the first item to go to "aid" in "rebuilding" the "ailing" airline (or add your pet peeve corporation here).

Chris...

P.S. As a captain at "the worlds largest airline" my pay is 1,000 bucks a month less than the monthly numerical figure my father made as a captain in 1984 at TWA. "Mama's, don't let your babies grow up to be airline pilots...." Sorry, Waylon!

[stuntflyr]

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Depends on what you're asking about. Civilian On-Mark executive versions or the B-26K model On-Mark rebuilt for the USAF in the 1960s? There is a handful of military K's around in museums, and one for sale with Lynch Air Tankers in Montana. I know there is a group on the east coast that is trying to get the funds to buy it. Civilian exec. versions are somewhat more plentiful, but unfortunately a lot of these has been traded (or caught by the DEA and donated) back to the USAF and rebuilt as stock WWII bombers.

The only military K to have raced was Wally McDonnell's "The Mojave Kid" that flew in the 70s. Lloyd Hamilton's #16 N500MR is the only civilian conversion to race. I have heard that Matt Jackson plans to rebuild his pressurized On-Mark Marksman with R-3350s and go racing, something I don't hope will happen. There are only three or four of those left, and it would be nice to see it restored as such!

T J

Surely Matt must have been joking as the B-26 doesn't meet the 3 G rule and hasn't been legal since the eighties.

Howard Keck looked to buy a pressurized On-Mark Marksman but the airplane was said to have too much corrosion to restore.

I believe the airplane was purchased, and the FWF's were installed on Keck's more conservatively converted On-Mark, though I never saw it afterwards. I really like the cowlings and spinners on the Marksman and think they would look beautiful on any of them.

I have always felt that certain bombers converted to executive transport should be preserved in their executive state.

Chris...

[speeddemon]

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I have always felt that certain bombers converted to executive transport should be preserved in their executive state.

Amen.

Its not as if there is a lack of A-26 warbirds out there.

[Skyracer]

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A couple of photo links to On-Mark Marksman:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0577534

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/PRPhotos/OnMark-2.jpg

And a very sad Marketeer:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0718871&size=L

[HiredBitSlinger]

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This one is from 1977. The program does not mention it, and it is not in the RARA database. May have been part of the warbird show and not a racer.

Dan Plunkett

[Jay]

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Looks like Puss & Boots, 1985, Bronze Race, Bomb Bay doors open as it crossed the finish line.