Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

[Shawn Aro]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

My Dad told me in 1976 that the field was so small that Reno was calling guyes all over the country to come to Race some did come from California . shawn

[Bottom Rudder]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

"Win at the slowest possible Speed"...Juan Miguel Fangio... I don' think Kerch will advise Mike to Hang it out... if the Bear has anything for them it may be History's FASTEST Race...Y'all saw what happened when DAGO went for the "500 MPH" lap after 15 min on the Mouse...D.

Hi David,

Yours is kind of an apples to oranges comparison. When Dago went for the 500 lap in 2000, that was right after a race with a hot engine. That was a unique circumstance.

Dago's 500+ mph race was at a race power, but not what they would call high race power. The airplane flew that entire week, and flew home.

Any race engine run that hard gets some wear and tear; but nobody knows when the wick will run out.

As it pertains to Brown and his airplane; expect the same attitude as past years... He wants to win.

And the comment about second place setting the pace of the race. Couldn't be more accurate.

[BuckyD]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

Isn't anybody gonna list- 'GALLOPING GHOST' as a factor in the Reno 2007 NCAR Unlimited contenders??? (She's on the entry list - assuming her race prep will be completed in time to make the arrival deadline...)

Sept. Fury is no-doubt the odds-on favorite for the Gold. Bear & Ghost are dark horses jammin' to get finished in time. I've been really impressed with Stu Dawson's SPIRIT OF TEXAS' steady progress thru the Unlimited Gold ranks each year (this hard-workin', dedicated team comes to- RACE!!!).

History has often proved that many of those 'spotty field' years at Reno for the Unlimited Class (when alot of the Gold Class heavies are standing down), provide some unexpected surprises and very competitive racing.

It will be interesting, to say the least.

BuckyD

[SCEPTER]

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1) September fury

2) Dreadnought

3) Spirit of Texas

I don't see any Mustangs breaking the Dreadnought curse this year.

[Leo]

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September Fury will set the quali record over 500, then only use what is needed to stay in front.
If the Bear is up and strong, it could be a heck of a race, but I think SF will prevail.
Warlock in T-6's.
Parker in Sport...

[t-dub]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

History has often proved that many of those 'spotty field' years at Reno for the Unlimited Class (when alot of the Gold Class heavies are standing down), provide some unexpected surprises and very competitive racing.

It will be interesting, to say the least.

BuckyD

Like shawn said, in 1976 the field was small to start with, and there was lots of attrition to boot. Some of the aircraft didn't even make it to Reno, having troubles enroute. There were some great aircraft that did make it, only to end up sitting on the ramp. And who won? Lefty Gardner in his somewhat "stock" P-51 "Thunderbird". Check out the diversity of the field though: Two Kingcobras, an Aircobra, a Tigercat, two P-38's, the RB-51, and even an Me-109! (even though it never arrived) You just never know what's going to happen...... (There's some great names on this list, guys who are sorely missed.......Blue skies gentlemen!)

Race: Unlimited Qualifying Date: 1976-09-07 Distance: 9.80 miles
Pilot Name: Whittington, Don Aircraft: Precious Metal - Race 09 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 438.806 Place: 1
Notes: New qualifying record, engine exploded at end of run.

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Pilot Name: Crocker, John Aircraft: Sumthin' Else - Race 6 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 436.633 Place: 2
Notes: Formerly Ken Burnstine's "Foxy Lady."

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Pilot Name: McClain, Mac Aircraft: Red Baron - Race 5 Type: RB-51 Mustang
Time: Speed: 436.094 Place: 3

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Pilot Name: Gardner, Lefty Aircraft: Thunderbird - Race 25 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 384.732 Place: 4

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Pilot Name: Leeward, Jimmy Aircraft: Miss Florida - Race 9 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 383.478 Place: 5

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Pilot Name: Klabo, Clay Aircraft: Iron Mistress - Race 85 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 376.119 Place: 6

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Pilot Name: Keefe, Howie Aircraft: Miss America - Race 11 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 352.800 Place: 7

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Pilot Name: Gardner, Lefty Aircraft: Tipsy Miss - Race 28 Type: P-63C Kingcobra
Time: Speed: 343.860 Place: 8
Notes: Qualified by Gardner, raced by Gary Levitz.

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Pilot Name: Love, Bob Aircraft: Grey Fox - Race 96 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 342.857 Place: 9

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Pilot Name: Flaherty, Jack Aircraft: Race 4 Type: P-63F Kingcobra
Time: Speed: 342.524 Place: 10

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Pilot Name: Roberts, George Aircraft: Flying Undertaker - Race 1 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 337.931 Place: 11
Notes: Qualified by Robers, raced by Darryl Greenamyer.

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Pilot Name: Norland, Dave Aircraft: No Name Dame - Race 76 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 323.077 Place: 12

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Pilot Name: Gardner, Lefty Aircraft: Race 13 Type: P-38L Lightning
Time: Speed: 316.413 Place: 13

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Pilot Name: Messick, Ed Aircraft: Race 39 Type: P-39Q Airacobra
Time: Speed: 310.018 Place: 14

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Pilot Name: Forbes, Robert Aircraft: Race 62 Type: F7F-3 Tigercat
Time: Speed: 308.391 Place: 15
Notes: Qualified but did not race.

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Pilot Name: Wright, John Aircraft: Race 20 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 297.973 Place: 16

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Pilot Name: Putman, John Aircraft: Ciuchetton - Race 86 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 0.000 Place: 99
Notes: Engine and electrical problems, did not qualify but was allowed to race.

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Pilot Name: Whittington, Don Aircraft: Miss Florida II - Race 109 Type: Me 109G
Time: Speed: 0.000 Place: 99
Notes: Mechanical problems enroute, did not arrive Reno.

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Pilot Name: Levitz, Gary Aircraft: Double Trouble - Race 38 Type: P-38L Lightning
Time: Speed: 0.000 Place: 99
Notes: Blew one engine enroute to Reno.

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Pilot Name: Cummins, Cliff Aircraft: Miss Candace - Race 69 Type: P-51D Mustang
Time: Speed: 0.000 Place: 99
Notes: Engine seized enroute, landed safely, did not arrive Reno

[flyingjibus]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

Isn't anybody gonna list- 'GALLOPING GHOST' as a factor in the Reno 2007 NCAR Unlimited contenders??? (She's on the entry list - assuming her race prep will be completed in time to make the arrival deadline...)
BuckyD

Uhmmm...

:Bear is healthy and flies, strega has race motor and doesn't blow, Sep Fury pushes 500 every lap , but none of them can keep up with the Ghost!!!!

To all of you picking September Fury, are you assuming the bear wont be racing? If not ( Spe fury beating a healthy bear) ARE YOU CRAZY???!!!

NO sea fury can beat a healthy Bear. Its simple phsyics!

[Leo]

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I'm a Bear fan, BUT I still think that with what has been done to Sept Fury the last few years she is faster. The Fury airframe may be larger but it was the last of the piston fighters and has better aerodynamics than the Bearcat. SF has a strong engine, a good crew (not in any way disparaging the Bear gang).
Now IF the Bear is running strong, and IF she can push SF to the breaking point before she detonates herself, then... It would be one heck of a good race until one of them blows.

[flyingjibus]

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actually it's aerodynamics, but who's counting...

All theories of aerodynamics are based upon physics, hence it's label as a "building-block" of science. But as you said, who's counting?

In regards to a sea fury being more aerodynamic then a bearcat???

Were sea fury fusalage's dropped from the sky to provide the design with the least resitance (wasn't the wind tunnel a great invention?) Has anyone set a speed record with a sea fury? Has this forum been invaded by the british?

I dont think that the bear will need to push the new motor very hard at all to out pace september fury, but if that Sep Fury is faster then I give credit for I will only be more pleased. I'm in it for the competition!

But seriously guys, do you remember the Bear?? It's REALLY fast.

[RRMERLIN7]

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SF and Bear breaking.. Strega beats Dread and Ghost for Gold .......

Holms wins Sport in NXT

Buckeye Wins Jet

WARLOCK T-6

[SCEPTER]

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But seriously guys, do you remember the Bear?? It's REALLY fast.

If the Bear is ready.

If the Ghost is ready.

If Strega is stock.

If Dago shows up.

if if if if if......We shall see in about one month.......I can't wait.

[David E. Wells]

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...The Bear was at her Fastest when Drinking Drugs...A short-Winged SF doesn't Turn as well as a long-wing on the "New" Course (per the Sanders Bros.), if the Ghost has whatever Jack Roush put in Cloud Dancer last year ??? If Strega has a 1/2 Mouse! ALL Speculation, but Whatever, it's Going to be VERY Interesting.
...Until they let in those Me-262's and get some other Vintage Jets (F9F, Meteor, Vampire, F-84...) the Jet Race will Remain MILLER TIME!
...DASHER for the BRONZE or the "Peoples Choice Award" at Least!
...SKIP 1st! BUT, Wouldn't it be Grand to see him go at it with Darryl?
Oh, it was Juan MANUEL Fangio who said "Win at the slowest possible speed)...and I meant that Michael Brown wouldn't just go out and try to run 500 every lap Just to Do It. That was a 3 Martini Post!
...D.

[jarrodeu]

Re: Out On A Limb - Reno 2007 Precictions

Obviously some people don't realize a healthy can't be beat.

Jarrod

[t-dub]

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i saw something in the Avation classics hanger ?

Yeah Shawn, I saw what you saw in the Aviation Classic's hangar today. There puttin' Her coat back on for this fall, in a couple of days She'll be real pretty in white..........

[Relentless]

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Kevin Eldredge will win the Sport Class with his Relentless NXT racer. On a mere 500Hp, he will average 367 MPH and pilot his stunning racer to victory.

I am RELENTLESS!