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[David E. Wells]

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Boiloff on a 3350 Interesting

Where you been? Sept Fury has a 3350 & a boil-off, Darryl Greenamyer had one on his Bearcat way back in the '60's...Stilleto...

Push-pull, don't forget the Macchi Schneider Cup racer, they couldn't cool the back engine either.

Better idea would be a P-82. It had THE Wing...put big radials....big spinners, a boiler...P-38 w/ P-82 wing...?

I suspect that it would be very difficult to find Merlins for Full-Race applications.
...D.

[ebutner]

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"I just go to thinking about it and it occured to me that there are a lot of post WWII wings off of our early jets that could do the trick, and that being made just after WWII that construction might be similar."

A lot of wild and cool ideas ala Larry Burton but don't forget how the Lear(?) wing on Miss Ashley II folded and it wasn't doing a snap roll. That was a neat idea but didn't really look that cool anyway.
Something else with a little more robust structure or spars might work though.

By the way....who's the money man that's going to build this bird?

Bill K

Bill, the vote just came in... Going to use your money... Congrats!

[David E. Wells]

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Kohler, Since you're buyin', how 'bout a GeeBeeZ with Tandem 2800's and a boiler! Plenty of room in the fuselage...But you may need radial tires...Wells.

[forbergler]

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This is a fairly rudimentary drawing but, here it is none the less.

[rmudbugs]

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She looks fast!

[ebutner]

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Sweet!

[forbergler]

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I just found this. I haven't played with it yet, but it looks very interesting, and applicable to the topic at hand.

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/foil2.html

[B52Hfan]

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This is a fairly rudimentary drawing but, here it is none the less.

Yup! we be getting there! The Germans had 'annular' radiators on the 335. Perhaps they're applicable here.

[Bill Marsh]

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VERY COOL THREAD..... seeeeeee Mr. Wells..... synergy = cool.

Okay
1. get a consensus on AAFO
2. build a 25 or 33 % scale ( like chez mate)
3. PUT IT ON U-TUBE.... it flies, it flies!!!!
4. woodies ='s checks flooding in
5. wall - aaaaaa

we got another "baloney slicer"..................


Hey... where is the Big Block Baloney Slicer anyway.

BM

[Hawkeye]

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Back in the 90's Our crew chief and I was thinking on how to make a budjet Reno unlimited instead of racing the Mustang's and Yak's we had done up to that point. We had a T-28 in the hanger and we looked at hanging a 2800 on it, make it a tail dragger and flush rivet the wing and fuselage and use a T33 canopy. The wing airfoil is supposed to be better than the P-51. The mods would have made a Silver racer that you could run all day and not hurt it. We just never got around to start the mods to accomplish it. Sea Furies became plentiful and that was a cheaper way to go. Still it would have been fun.

[David E. Wells]

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T-28 wings...WOW, didn't know That!...now put a smaller fuselage on them. Still wonder about that landing gear, isn't it set up for a trike? Wouldn't that make that puller/pusher option sweet...a 2800 on either end? ...Falconers?
QUESTION: A boiler system for an air-cooled cools the oil...A boiler for a liquid-cooled has to cool the coolant AS WELL AS the oil...are the capacities different?...D.

[David E. Wells]

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[QUOTE=David E. Wells

Push-pull, don't forget the Macchi Schneider Cup racer, they couldn't cool the back engine either.


...D.[/QUOTE]

CORRECTION: It was the Savoia-Marchetti S-65, had front & rear engines w/ contra-rotating props (crashed). But, check out the Piaggio-Pegna P.c.7! Source: "Schneider Trophy Racers" by Robt. S. Hirsch, 1993.

[Bill Marsh]

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Hey D...

is that the one that is 1/2 submirged in the water..... it runs on the front engine... gets on the step and the pilot jams the rear engine to engage the rear prop to rotate?

its my all time favorite a/c.... saw some pictures way back... i think it was red.

BM

[David E. Wells]

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That's the one...wild, isn't it, but it goes the other way, power to the submerged rear, boat type prop, til it climbs onto the hydrafoils, then, change gears and the airplane prop takes over and UP SHE GOES! According to the book, it got up on the foils ONE TIME, but never flew...D.

[Bill Marsh]

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D....

That must be one hell-a-va greek coupler with a strong arm pilot!!!!!

ccCCCCCC-rrr ash box

did it ever fly at all or generate any competative speeds?

BM