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  • #16
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    Originally posted by Skyracer View Post
    Packard built Merlins for Packard under license from Rolls-Royce.
    By "for Rolls-Royce" I didn't mean they sent finished engines back to Rolls. I meant Rolls-Royce sought out Packard to help them make production quotas. Later searching tells me that it was the British government that sought out Packard (as noted in the next quoted text).

    By "Packard built Merlins for Packard" did you mean Packard built them for themselves, or for American aircraft companies? I'm researching it, and data favors the latter. I've never heard of Packard making aircraft requiring engines, nor putting these beasts in Packard automobiles. so why would they be making huge V-12s for themselves?


    Probably the best liquid cooled engine ever developed was the Rolls Royce Merlin. Since 1935 the British had the engine under continuous development. designed to be hand made, however, the engine did not lend itself to mass-production techniques.

    On June 24, 1940 Packard was asked by the British government to redefine the engine and make it practical for American mass-production. The process required a complete set of new drawings which Packard prepared under the direction of Jesse Vincent.
    ...And as to the question WHY Packard did some re-engineering, besides trying to make them easier to mass-produce?...

    The Rolls Royce drawings from which Packard worked lacked details and specifications and were not in the third angle projection as is the American practice. The Rolls Royce drawings also omitted tolerances which Packard had to develop from an actual engine.

    It became a matter of taking an actual engine apart and going backwards to develop the needed drawings and specifications. Packard, under the direction of William H. Graves, chief metallurgist for the company, also had to develop the foundry specifications for the Packard-made engine.
    The last quote mentioning the blueprint's lack of info I have seen mentioned on/in several websites and in a few books.

    As a plus, I found this:

    In September 1940 the Packard Co. agreed to build the Merlin engine for both the American and the British governments, and adapted it for American mass-production methods.

    The Army Air Forces used the engine almost exclusively in the famed P-51 Mustang, for it provided greatly improved high-altitude performance over the Allison V-1710 engine used in earlier series of that airplane. The V-1650 Merlin also replaced the V-1710 in the F series of the P-40.

    The British also used PACKARD-built Merlins during the last three years of the war in their Spitfire, Mosquito and Lancaster airplanes.
    So, it wasn't just American aircraft that Packard made them for, and the Packards may not be able to interchange parts with Rolls-Royce versions. This ol' AirDOGGe learned some new "tricks" today...
    Last edited by AirDOGGe; 08-21-2009, 04:05 PM.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Fence Sence View Post
      Am I missing anything? I was looking for some pics. I see the illustrations (which look awesome), just wondering if we all have to wait to see the real deal. I'm borderline giddy with anticipation to see it.

      PS- If there was a sticker that was that profile illustration, I would buy two.


      Some "older' pics here....http://picasaweb.google.com/cptsneed...at=directlink#

      rumor has it that they are farther along than these pics.

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      • #18
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        During WW2 almost everything was built under license by other companies when the primary builder could not meet production needs. Many aircraft were built by companies other than the primary, B-17's by Lockheed, engines by Studebaker and Maytag, etc. sometimes with good results, sometimes with bad (as in Brewster Corsairs). My understanding was that Packard was picked due to their reputation for quality. The redesign they did was due to meeting our methods, speeding production and increasing the dependability of the product, based on inadequate plans. Whether they were different enough to not be interchangeable is way beyond my knowledge. Any builders out there know?

        With the cut down wings and canopy and no scoop, GG is sure going to look SMALL compared to the others, kinda like Stiletto did. mmmmmm...
        Leo Smiley - Graphics and Fine Arts
        airplanenutleo@gmail.com
        thetreasuredpeacock.etsy.com

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        • #19
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          Man am I glad I bought my tickets. Seeing GG fly will be worth the whole trip.

          Hope she can stay together.
          '71 S.D.1000, '85-'91,'94',95,'97-'99,'02,'04,'06,'08,'10,'13,'14 NCAR.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by SCEPTER View Post
            Some "older' pics here....http://picasaweb.google.com/cptsneed...at=directlink#

            rumor has it that they are farther along than these pics.
            Ya, I saw those. I was just hoping for some completion pics.

            No worries, I will see her soon.
            You'll get your chance, smart guy!

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            • #21
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              I'm putting up another page of shots Saturday.

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              • #22
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                New shots are up.

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                • #23
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                  Hi Ryan, thanks for those updates. I guess my "stupid" question of the day is; are the wings sealed for fuel? I notice on the bottom of the wing it appears that the stress panels are sealed and no longer removable?, and only access is boost pump covers. Looks great no matter what , that old girl will turn a few eyeballs that's for sure!!

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                  • #24
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                    I don't know. They may be sealed just for aerodynamics.

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                    • #25
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                      Thanks Ryan.

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                      • #26
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                        Wow. Awesome! Thanks Ryan. If I see you in the pits, I'll buy ya a round.
                        You'll get your chance, smart guy!

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                        • #27
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                          Just make sure it's a Coke, okay? My parents might not like me drinking anything else.

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                          • #28
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                            How 'bout a Freska? Could I interest you in a Sweet Tea perhaps? Aren't you a college boy now?

                            One thing I noticed on the to do list was the windshield washer. I might be showin' my hand here a bit but, how many racers have this feature and how well does it work? I've seen enough black windshield to make me think that it should be mandatory.
                            Last edited by Fence Sence; 08-28-2009, 11:24 PM.
                            You'll get your chance, smart guy!

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Fence Sence View Post
                              How 'bout a Fresca?

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                              • #30
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                                "Bushwood for sale? NEVER!!!"
                                "CHARLIE DON'T SURF!!!"

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