Mustang

[Bob]

Re: Mustang

Wayne,
Dont feed the trolls man.

[flyingjibus]

Re: Mustang

I dont know how we got on the topic of T.O.R. but having just watched it I am going to put my two cents here.

All the people listed above did a great job with their contributions to the flying scenes of this "Movie" The visual aspect of the scenes is pretty spectacular. That being said, everything else in the movie was less then watchable. Being an amateur filmaker myself I totally understand being limited by the actors you can afford and the challanges of script writing.

Wayne you often defend the movie by saying that they needed to make the movie appeal to the masses and not just die hard air race fans. I agree with this notion but the attempt to do this in T.O.R. was laughable at best.

Why portray the races in a way that is completely disconnected from reality? Why show a race where almost every racer maydays out of the race? Why show a racer intentionally "creating wake turbulance" to slow the people behind him down? They could have simply told a story about some guy new to the races who comes in against all odds and beats the big established teams. Simple basis for an easy to write story.

I have lots of friends who have no real knowledge of air planes let alone air racing and anytime I show one of them clips for the valley of speed or just pictures from the pits and such they ALWAYS say "wow, that looks really cool" and ask about going to the races. Those same friends who saw T.O.R. with me all responded the exact same way. I wont go into it but I will say that it wasn't good.

Reno doesn't need a silly contived story to be interesting to the masses. The trials and tribulations of any type of racing makes it own interesting, and more importantly, believable story. If the T.O.R. producers were trying to appeal to the masses then I am afraid of, and and offended by what their opinion of the masses is. That story line was so predictable and played out that I doubt anyone really wrote it. They just recreated scenes (poorly) from other movies. They even ripped off Star Wars!

I dont mean to disrespect any of the hard work that went into that movie, I just dont understand how something that would be so easy to write got sooooooo bogged down by a "story"

The crop dusting scenes were really cool.

[split-s]

Re: Mustang

THUNDER OVER-EXPOSED: Premiering this fall at a theater near you is a feature-length motion picture billing itself as “the world’s fastest love story”, a drama set against the backdrop of the NCARs at Reno. God knows the races need the publicity, but what Show-Biz does for exposure begs comparison with what it does for respectability.
Of a piece with the usual disfigurement Hollywood visits upon its subjects, the biggest name in the cast of “Thunder Over Reno” is an “actress” whose meager résumé is three-quarters uncredited roles or Playboy videos. (This learned from the Internet Movie Database. Really.) It seems we’re supposed to buy this frail as a race pilot of Unlimited-class fighters –– for which it would not be as easy to suspend disbelief as for the FAA to suspend Bill Rheinschild for low passes.

[This was drawn back in '07 before I learned that Mr. Beck and his model-A had come to grief. $]

[Paynts]

Re: Mustang

Aww com'n guys ! I havent seen it but im sure its better than watching Opra!! i mean, who thinks that rookie F14 pilots used to fly inverted and take pictures of Mig cockpits from 20 ft ?or get to bed their tasty female lecturer in flight school? (Top gun)
who thinks Days of Thunder accruately represents the sport of Nascar-

Or Memphis Belle the life of a B17 bomber crew?

only once in a while does a film get remotely close to the reality of your chosen pet subject, Saving Private Ryan came close in many peoples opinion and Band of Brothers, maybe even closer
Doesnt mean that i didnt enjoy Days of thunder or Top gun - I just didnt take it too seriously - oh and I'll bet there is a little bit of "those that have been to Reno" quite enjoying poking holes in the the detail for there own amusement - but lets not be too killjoy!!!

[split-s]

Re: Mustang

Sometimes a film is so far afield of the truth as to render pointless the five most dangerous words in show business: "Based on a true story."

Case in point, "Memphis Bell". So little of the real story was incorporated in the script that using any of the story seemed arbitrary.

Any movie featuring Tom Cruise typically requires more than the ordinary suspension of disbelief.

Whatever genre a film mines, the hobbyists and experts thereof have the right to scrutinize the details -- and complain about errors -- whether or not they have any right to expect accuracy.

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