KRNV News about RARA

[Bob]

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The casinos won't be kicking in much if at all.Indian gaming kicking their butts.Ones in chapter 11 and two others might still be or just getting out.
As far as some wealthy guy giving up some cash,I don't think so.There is not much of a return on the investment.Most importantly,the libility factor is there.Who wants to spend thousands,possibly millions on defending yourself in court if there is another accident.You were just the guy that donated a ton of money and now you have to defend yourself in court for being a nice guy?
Some of you guys sound like the current administration in Wash D.C.Let the rich pick up the tab for your troubles so that you can have an enjoyable life.Let the watch maker come through will more cash.They seem to be happy year after year or until someone tries to get into their pockets after and accident.

LOL, ummm there is no choice when the gubbamint decides you have to pay, a donation is 100% choice. I have given all I can afford at the moment, I will be donating more trust me. If some rich person CHOSES to write a check then they can do that. I bet if they do chose to write that check it will be because they to understand the history involved at the NCAR. Funny you would try to make it sound like we are all begging people to support our addictions and you can bet your sweet bippy if I had the money I would write that check in a second. I must also say thank you for stepping up and speaking for all the wealthy people out there, your awesome mate
One last thing, even in california you cant be sued for making a donation.

[C_roundy]

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...........................Some of you guys sound like the current administration in Wash D.C.Let the rich pick up the tab for your troubles so that you can have an enjoyable life.Let the watch maker come through will more cash.They seem to be happy year after year or until someone tries to get into their pockets after and accident.

Hmm... Aren't you just a bundle of sunshine and joy.

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I'm hoping that this is a contribution by the casinos/hotels. The air race events are probably the biggest time of the year for them, filling rooms AND drawing more people to casinos in the evenings. it would be good business sense for them to help keep it alive.


Fingers crossed

The casinos won't be kicking in much if at all.Indian gaming kicking their butts.Ones in chapter 11 and two others might still be or just getting out.
As far as some wealthy guy giving up some cash,I don't think so.There is not much of a return on the investment.Most importantly,the libility factor is there.Who wants to spend thousands,possibly millions on defending yourself in court if there is another accident.You were just the guy that donated a ton of money and now you have to defend yourself in court for being a nice guy?
Some of you guys sound like the current administration in Wash D.C.Let the rich pick up the tab for your troubles so that you can have an enjoyable life.Let the watch maker come through will more cash.They seem to be happy year after year or until someone tries to get into their pockets after and accident.

[MustangFan]

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Just sent my $100.00 and bought two shirts as well. Anybody wanna match it? Double it?
Get'er Done!!!

Done! I see your $100 and raise ya $100...donation sent.

Let's make this happen folks.

[Bob]

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Simple question. Those that have purchased race tickets, hotel rooms, airline tickets in advance and those planning on going at the last moment, would you rather know in advance, what RARA knows about what happens to the races if the insurance money that they need is insufficient, or would you rather not know?

In other words, do you want to be kept informed with important details, or would you rather not know? My guess, is that people want to know, in advance, what's going on.

And we will know by sept 1st or sooner, good enough for me, and they have my money. LONG LIVE THE NCAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SkyvanDelta]

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Simple question. Those that have purchased race tickets, hotel rooms, airline tickets in advance and those planning on going at the last moment, would you rather know in advance, what RARA knows about what happens to the races if the insurance money that they need is insufficient, or would you rather not know?

In other words, do you want to be kept informed with important details, or would you rather not know? My guess, is that people want to know, in advance, what's going on.

[wolfee]

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RSCVA voted to add another 75000 to RARA to help pay for the insurance..

Story herehttp://www.ktvn.com/story/19022414/r...reno-air-races

[Box A35]

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I will just say this briefly, if you want the assurance of recourse in case of a cancellation, buy tickets with a credit card. I will admit that I have not read the "fine print" of ticket sales but I thought it was worth mentioning as credit cards (not debit) do allow some guarantees.

Now back to all of the POSITIVE thoughts of Reno 2012!!!!!!!!

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Just sent my $100.00 and bought two shirts as well. Anybody wanna match it? Double it? Time is now to step up and do your part to lend a little extra support to those who pull this magic show off every year so we can enjoy. Doesn't have to $100.00. Whateveryou feel you can afford.

Get'er Done!!!

[supercub]

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As far as refunds, remember after last years shorten races, you could get a refund........I think most of us didn't apply and felt the money could go for the future of the races.
As far as the comments that the races are a GO perhaps:

1. Someone behind the scenes has already said they will step up if the money isn't raised............hence the statement.

OR

2. The insurance company will wait till after the races for the balance of the payment, but a good faith effort has to be made to make full payment prior to Sept 1...........hence the statment.

I find it hard to believe that they would be cancelled at such a late date when considering all the effort in organizing the vendors, PRS, waivers, FAA, and all the other items that go on behind the scenes to put on such an event..........however, I guess it could be cancelled.......but I sure hope not.
I think in the future over coming one million dollar additional expense wouldn't be tat difficult.....I've heard there's approx 250,000 people each year that attend.......just a $4 ticket increase would cover that extra expense. LET"S GO RENO
Brian

[AAFO_WSagar]

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I'm thinkin' a little bit of faith is in order here... try to keep the vision of a world where there is no air racing....

It is common today for Business Executives to take huge salaries, bonuses and compensations, then close business and leave the small person with the losses.

Man-O-Man... I've known these folks (RARA) a loong time, it's no accident that the races have continued, even after the disastrous week of September 9, 2001... I have it on pretty good authority that RARA staff and management are not in this "for the money".

I know this is a land of free speech and all that but... damnit... the folks trying to squeeze this out of the disaster that last year was, read this forum... How'd you like a slap in the face like this at your daily job? We all sit here and dream about the next NCAR, no brainer, that's fun.. The nuts-and-bolts of making it happen, jumping through the hoops, crossing all the t's dotting all the i's... pray your volunteers all come through for you, your demo teams are lined up, weather gods are smiling on you...on and on.. I'm sure we don't have a clue of the work involved keeping this event going from year to year. Not to ignore the fact that NO ONE ELSE has ever been successful putting on a continious air racing event... anywhere.

Hands down folks, I'm putting out a big digital pat on the back for these RARA guys..

I'm probably as big a "realist" as you'll find, but there is a time and a place to just let it hang out, have faith and let your positive energy flow...

[SkyvanDelta]

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That's great! I paid for my box last week to the tune of $3,150.00... My guess is I will never see that money back after the event is cancelled and RARA files bankrupt papers. So much for Mike saying not to long ago that the 2012 Reno Air Races would go on...

I hate to be the pessimist, but I've lost so much to scammers that I'm more cautious than before.

Maybe it would be a good idea to email them now and ask them

1. if the insurance cannot be paid, will all my money be refunded?
2. is my money guaranteed to be refunded? How is it guaranteed? escrow account...?

It is misleading to tell race fans the races are on (which they could be), but omit an important part "only if we can afford to pay the insurance cost", then accept payment for tickets and leave the payer with the unknown of what will happen if insurance costs cannot be paid. Will your money be refunded 100%?

It is common today for Business Executives to take huge salaries, bonuses and compensations, then close business and leave the small person with the losses.

[AAFO_WSagar]

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Are donations tax deductable?

Donations made to the RARA are not tax deductable... donations made to the Reno Air Racing Foundation, which funds a lot of the activities held during the races, not, the races themselves, are deductable... I'm sure RARA's site has more information and we will also have more information soon...

[Bob]

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How about ex Microsoft Paul Allen with all the planes in the state of Wash. I bet he could figure out a way as a write-off donation somehow.

Are donations tax deductable?

[AAFO_WSagar]

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Thank you AAFO WSagar for so eloquently verbalizing what my feelings are also about this event.

LOL.. first version, which, with a slip of the wrist, became a blank page, was a lot better....

Thanks!