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  • #31
    Re: Patriot Demo Team

    Originally posted by AAFO_WSagar View Post
    FWIW, I have been enjoying this discussion by two pilots of high performance aircraft. It's been polite, IMHO and both have shown respect to the other. It's an informative discussion and is exactly the way I like to see "discussions", particularly, disagreements take place.
    No arguments there.
    Biplane Race #3

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    • #32
      Re: Patriot Demo Team

      For what it's worth, my son has a photo of the same pass at the JBLM Lewis-McChord show in July that is just as low if not lower....so it's certainly not something that was 'just' at Reno...nor a surprise for the FAA.

      But it has been kind of fun watching you two 'debate'........
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      • #33
        Re: Patriot Demo Team

        Which one of us is Heat Miser and which one is Cold Miser?

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        • #34
          Re: Patriot Demo Team

          Originally posted by Randy Haskin View Post
          Which one of us is Heat Miser and which one is Cold Miser?
          Isn't it Jack Frost?? Haha where has this site gone?!
          Reno from '99 to '23

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          • #35
            Re: Patriot Demo Team

            Originally posted by GRNDP51 View Post
            where has this site gone?!
            http://youtu.be/NdWtqlaCmy8
            Last edited by Bob; 09-24-2012, 08:24 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: Patriot Demo Team

              Originally posted by Bob View Post

              GO AIR FORCE!!!!
              Fledgling Air Race and P-51 Junkie

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              • #37
                Re: Patriot Demo Team

                I don't see a thing wrong with that pass. Thats the
                "show" in air show.

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                • #38
                  Re: Patriot Demo Team

                  Shorebird -- considering some of the near horizontal shots (from the ground) I have of you on the race course in several Gold Races, I can see how you'd feel that way, LOL...

                  And I totally agree!

                  Neal

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                  • #39
                    Re: Patriot Demo Team

                    Originally posted by wingman View Post
                    Shorebird -- considering some of the near horizontal shots (from the ground) I have of you on the race course in several Gold Races, I can see how you'd feel that way, LOL...

                    And I totally agree!

                    Neal
                    You can take the boy out of the crop duster but you can't take the ......

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                    • #40
                      Re: Patriot Demo Team

                      Originally posted by xmh53wrench View Post

                      GO AIR FORCE!!!!
                      Sure looks like an F-18 at the end of that video...

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                      • #41
                        Re: Patriot Demo Team

                        I wasn't present this year, but judging by the pictures, I have no problem with the pass. I think to compare racing to airshow acts is, as Randy stated, Apples to Oranges. If we don't want airshow acts to fly low, then Sean Tucker, Kent Pietsch and several others would be a pretty boring show.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Patriot Demo Team

                          JCP would've had a fit if he ever saw Bob Hoover, Bob Love or Bill Fornof perform.
                          Chris...

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                          • #43
                            Re: Patriot Demo Team

                            Originally posted by stuntflyr View Post
                            JCP would've had a fit if he ever saw Bob Hoover, Bob Love or Bill Fornof perform.
                            Chris...
                            I'm sure he did.
                            I remember being at his parent's place one time when they were still in Calif.
                            Bob Love showed some home movies, his copies of gun camera footage from the Korean war.
                            I was just a teenager wannabe and flew up with guys from Chino.
                            Bill Fornoff didn't survive low level aerobatics so I don't know how you want to factor that one in.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Patriot Demo Team

                              Yeah,
                              I'm sure if Bill had been higher the wing wouldn't have come off. What was I thinking?
                              Chris...

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                              • #45
                                Re: Patriot Demo Team

                                I don't know JCP personally, but I have to imagine given the place, people, and toys he grew up around up there, he has probably observed more high performance flying and pilots than many of us.

                                But let's be fair -- he wasn't having a cow over simply guys in aerobatic routines flying low.

                                He was specifically talking about the possible un-necessary risk posed by such a routine at Reno this year, due to it being under such scrutiny the year after the Ghost.

                                That it is far from meaning that he's someone who would be agitated by such a routine at other times and places.

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